Don’t Let Lobbyists Automate the Health Care System!

by francine on February 3, 2009 · 5 comments

in Providers,Tools

I’m beginning to think we need to stop Obama from implementing electronic health records. I didn’t always feel this way.

I’m sitting in a meeting with a doctor friend of mine who is now working for a clinic that uses GE Centricity.This man, a D.O. with a master’s degree in medical informatics, is telling horror stories about how an entire state’s health care system is trying to run on an electronic health record that no one can use.

They are using it because they bought it, although the doctor who bought the system said it bankrupted him and forced hin to sell his practice to the hospital. The hospital doesn’t even use Centricity, it uses Cerner. There’s a jerry-rigged interface to make Cerner talk to Centricity. The databases are not shared.

These are the two leading EHR products on the market right now. But NextGen and Allscripts are no better; I’ve evaluated them all, and I know. Before we implement EHRs, there had better be a panel of users (physicians) talking to Obama, rather than a panel of software companies.

This same doctor, and another friend of mine and I started a small non-profit a few years ago to evaluate these systems and help small practices implement them. The other friend is an MIT grad who has been a professor of Medical Informatics. I was their marketing front end. After helping one practice implement a system, we dropped out of the field. We realized that health care IT doesn’t help the doctors as it is now deployed; instead, it kills their productivity and hurts them. When they don’t adopt it, we criticize them, but THEY ARE RIGHT!!!

A few big products control the movement for CCHIT certification, which keeps smaller, perhaps more useful products out of the market. To get your product certified by CCHIT costs a $30,000 application fee, and then a couple of hundred grand more to go through the process.

This doctor has written his own EHR, so he knows how they work. He gave up marketing it because he was such a small fish in a big pond.

He says GE doesn’t want you to be able to do anything, so they can service the doctors who buy the system. He says GE’s database is sloppy to the point of of absurdity. GE acquired the database from another company, and rather than fix it, they just layered things on top of it. Key fields are named differently even though the data is supposed to relate to each other. And the rich text markup is stored with the data. It’s unreadable.

It’s this doctor’s opinion that no one understands this product. GE’s documentation is also difficult to use. These are expensive, IT-controlled products that are productivity and efficiency killers. You can’t even see the data in the software the way that you want.

Before we force the doctors to make health care worse with these existing products, let’s examine what we are doing. From a usability perspective, the software just isn’t there.

  • kflanagan

    It's been a while, over 10 years, now since I worked at a hospital, now its a bank,
    many things are eerily similar. Craplications abound, there's a few categories of these
    things that cost a relative fortune, but are worth just a tiny fraction of that if
    anything at all.

    There's small standalone niche products, they tend to get bought
    and forgotten about for many years, until it completely fails and there is no company
    to be foud to support it.

    Then there's the kind of thing that you are talking about, really big companies like GE
    don't make software, they go out and find components and bind them together with bubble
    gum and bailing wire. There's actually an advantages to this strategy, (well, if you are
    the seller it's an advantage)

    - There's nobody on the planet that understands the whole thing enough to support it.
    - There's nobody on the planet that understands the whole thing enough to replace it.
    - There's really good money to be made in services installing, maintaining and upgrading it
    - Once the fish, er customer, is hooked it's nearly impossible to move off of this platform

    I have some thoughts on what our Federal government can do to help.

    Standards, by making the large, VA, Medicare/Medicaid, government agenties use them, then take
    all opportunities to apply leverage to business and standards bodies to adopt those standards
    if they wish do do business with those agencies. I think that there's a real chance to create
    jobs, and level the playing field some.

    As a patient/consumer, I really want to be able to take a CD from my current Dr, hand it
    off to a new Dr, and not get looked at as if I had 3 heads.

    But, of course I'm an IT type, that's my perspective.

  • WebPixie

    It's so refreshing to read this perspective along with your post in your personal blog where you discuss your thoughts while attending BIL.

    I've worked at several hospitals and each has had its own EMR system full of bugs and quirks, except the system used by the VA Hospitals. I'm not a Vet., so my med. records are kept on the bubblegum and bailing wire systems kfanagan refers to in his comments. The headaches I've encountered in just this past week are so exasperating that I feel like I'm being hung out to dry by our own family physician who my husband and I have depended on for over 20 years.

    In my heart, I know it's not his fault even if it doesn't FEEL that way. Hospitals in our area are going through an era of consolidation right now and, oh, what a mess! I wish there was room in a comment to share even half of the problems I've encountered in just this past week! The whole experience MIGHT be summed up by a comment made by a woman standing in line behind me while I was waiting to have an order for lab tests entered into the computer…

    She said she used to work in IT at the hospital that had just consolidated with the one my doctor had been affiliated with for the past 10 years or so. I commented that it seems that his system is designed specifically NOT to be able to communicate with the computer system at the “main hospital,” as it's now called. She told me, “You're right, it's not. The hospital where I worked and his hospital used to be competitors.”

    YIKES!!! No wonder there were so many inconsistencies (that looked like mistakes) in the records from the computer at my doctor's office! No wonder the records over at the “main hospital” were just plain wrong! The idea to then have all this digital gibberish on the wide-open World-Wide-Web is not only frightening. It seems downright dangerous. Just the idea of hospitals being “in competition” with one another suggests that it's at the expense of quality patient care.

    I'm sorry if I sound like a luddite but, without the strict standards based on patient-controlled permissions, paper charts filled out by hand in triplicate with carbon paper would be superior to what I've encountered recently. Commenter kflanagan has it right, imho. “As a patient/consumer, I really want to be able to take a CD from my current Dr, hand it off to a new Dr, and not get looked at as if I had 3 heads.”

  • WebPixie

    NPR's Science Friday: “Electronic Medical Records (broadcast Friday, February 13th, 2009)” This might be interesting to hear, live or as podcast.

    Link: [http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200902133]

  • http://www.angelspeech.com/medical-practice-101/ Jay Andrews

    Very nicely said. Are you in the health care business as well? Your opinions are really valuable.

  • http://www.angelspeech.com/medical-practice-101/ Jay Andrews

    Very nicely said. Are you in the health care business as well? Your opinions are really valuable.

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