Healthcare debate: 100 years later, still the same

by Karoli on June 26, 2009 · View Comments

in News,Patients,Tools

Look at this amazing Google timeline of the national debate about health care reform over the past 100 years. At a glance, it’s clear that the anti-reformers have won the debate by throwing lots of money and hysterical arguments at the issue, leaving us where we are today.

There’s only one lesson to learn from this timeline: Health care reform is routinely defeated by the insurance and medical industries’ insistence that there is no need for a government mandate, that socialized medicine is bad, bad, bad, and that the industry and the markets can self-regulate themselves, covering more for less money.

100 years later, more Americans are losing more of their assets as a result of out-of-control health care costs, 47 million Americans are uninsured, jobs are being lost or eliminated because of the cost to employers to ensure the workforce, and yet, the debate still centers around the medical-pharma-insurance industry claims that market-based coverage is the best option.

While the health care argument can be framed in terms of economics, there’s an important social component that’s being buried in the current hysteria over costs and budgets. As our current system stands, the rich get the very best health care available, the elderly get better health care than they did before they were elderly, and the very poor get the basics.

The ones left in the cold? The unemployed, the self-employed, the small business owners, the middle class, people suffering from chronic illness and their caretakers. There is a fundamental social inequity built into the structure of health insurance and health delivery systems that cannot be solved by the markets because the markets are designed to be efficient and efficient markets cannot accept known risk.

Here are some quotes from the 100-year timeline (though I urge you to look at it yourself for the sheer visual proof of the lie against health care reform and the public option). I’ve added some headlines I found from the news about this year’s debate over healthcare reform to illustrate how the same scripts are still in play:

1916: HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN UNDER FIRE

Representatives of social welfare organizations, including the Sage Foundation, advocated the Mills bill because they believed it would do much to elevate the standard of health and happiness among the workers. Manufacturers opposed it on the ground that it meant an additional burden upon industry. The doctors opposed the bill because they held it invaded the free choice of a patient in selecting a physician.

2009: Graham: Cost Estimates a ‘Death Blow’ to Calls for Public Health Care Plan

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham says the Senate won’t go down the road of government-run health care, while Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd says most Americans want the government to play more of a role.

1934: THE ‘HEALTH INSURANCE’ ISSUE STIRS DOCTORS TO NEW DEBATE; Need of Wider Medical Benefit and of Greater Security for Practitioners Is Recognized, but Ideas on Methods Differ

2009: Who’s Afraid of a ‘Public Plan,’ and Why?

Why are private insurance companies and managed care organizations so frightened of a “public plan”?

1946: DOCTOR SEES PERIL IN CONTROL BY U.S.; President-Elect of the State Medical Society Asks Firm Stand Against ‘Bureaucracy’ ‘Threat’ Again Felt Sponsored Six State Plans. Characterizing Government-controlled health insurance as a “threat” to all physicians and surgeons, Dr. William Hale, president-elect of the Medical Society of the State of New York, urged the medical profession yesterday “to stand firm and united” against the dangers of Government “interference.”

2009:Above all, do no harm”—not according to the AMA

1960: One of the most intensive and broadly based lobbying operations in recent history has made health insurance for the aged easily the No. 1 issue before Congress this year.

2009: Top Health Care Companies Spent More Than Half Million On Congressional Trips

1989:Getting Health Coverage for the Left-Out Millions Jobs, Not Government, Should Be the Source

2009: Government Health Plans Always Ration Care Europe offers a glimpse of the future if President Obama and congressional Democrats have their way.

1992: Faced with wide disparities in pricing and fast-rising premium costs, customers tend to flock to any insurer with relatively stable and reasonable charges. The rush for personal policies offered by Kaiser Permanente in Northern California was so great that the insurer decided to suspend the sale of policies to individuals.

2009:Calculating insurance interests LAST WEEK, three insurance executives made starkly clear why President Obama is right to insist on a public-plan option in any health reform package. The three stood before Congress and refused to stop the practice of canceling coverage of sick policyholders for unrelated medical reasons, even in cases where the firms can’t show intentional fraud by the policyholders.

History proves, over and over and over again that private industry cannot fill the gap to cover all Americans, that those who go without are those least able to go without, and every ‘solution’ has lined the pockets of insurers while diminishing quality of care for insureds. It also proves that when it comes to the health care debate, insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies and other competing interests are looking out for nothing more than their bottom line, and will spend whatever they must to maintain their long-term monopoly.

Do something. Volunteer tomorrow to raise awareness. I will be at the Ventura FoodShare collection. You can find your event here. Don’t let the debate get hijacked again. 100 years of history has proven the lie. Let’s stand for truth.

  • 1) Socialized medicine IS bad and DOESN'T work.

    2) The only reform healthcare has seen is more government intervention after receiving payoffs from the people who benefit most from that intervention: Big Pharma.

    3) Asking government to further intervene and take over health care will do what? The same thing it always does: give the politicians something else to peddle - more power for money.

    If healthcare reform puts more power into the hands of the government and less into the hands of the people, who wins?

    FACTS:
    The government can't run the USPS, to which they've given a monopoly on the postal system.

    The people pushing this healthcare reform all come from states that are BANKRUPT: California, Maryland, New York...

    There are more lawyers graduating from universities in America than doctors, which is a flip-flop from 100 years ago.

    The quality of education in this country has dropped continually since the federal Department of Education was instituted. They can't run schools, how will they run hospitals?

    More and more power is being centralized in Washington and less and less is being held by the people in their home towns.

    I am not independently wealthy. I don't have health insurance. I probably qualify for "free" (that's a lark) healthcare under ObamaCare. Guess what? I don't want it.

    I am self-employed and I pay over 50% of my income in taxes of various types. Why would I want to pay more in order to get some second-rate healthcare?

    In fact, I qualify for Veterans Administration "free socialized" medicine. I don't go there either. Why? Because that federalized health care system SUCKS, that's why.

    Want to know what ObamaCare will be like? Go to your local VA and talk to some of the people there waiting for treatment, waiting for medicine, filling out endless forms to "qualify" for this and "become eligible" for that.

    I don't know what dream world you people come from who support the idea of socialized medicine, but it's not what AMERICA is all about. If you love socialized medicine so much, move to France or Germany or Canada.

    I AM NOT OBLIGATED TO PAY FOR ANYTHING THAT I DON'T WANT OR NEED. GO STEAL YOUR HEALTHCARE AND WELFARE FROM SOMEONE ELSE. I'M THROUGH PAYING YOUR WAY.

    Come to my house with your government badges and point your guns at me. Take everything I own. I don't care. I'm no longer footing the bill. You'll have to pay for my food and healthcare while I'm in prison because I'm no longer giving you anything that I earned and that I worked for. Be aware that if you send your Stazi to my house to kick in my door and try to steal my things in the name of the law, I will shoot back.

    I am an American and I fought for this country, I work hard for what I have, and I'm tired of you sons of bitches telling me I have to give you something for nothing. I'm tired of you picking my pockets, raping my bank account and stealing from my livelihood.

    The Land of the Free. Period. Not the "Land of the Free Stuff."

    Go find someone else to foot the bill for your socialism, you worthless Communists. I have things to do. Like making a living instead of figuring out how to rob from Peter to pay Paul.
  • We've had 100 years of doing it with market-based efforts. They have failed miserably. Have a nice day.
  • You didn't read anything I wrote and you aren't paying attention. We haven't had a "free market" in this country for more than a century. GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION AND MEDDLING is why the health care system is so screwed up right now.

    To fix it, we need to get government OUT of it.

    Politicians make money by brokering their power with large corporations. Eliminate the ability for them to sell out and you eliminate the problem. The only way to truly do that is to remove government from the whole process.

    The Constitution says NOTHING about providing welfare programs, cheap health care, or anything close to that. It doesn't say anything about corporations and politicians being in bed with one another either.

    All that's failed miserably is government.

    Have a nice day.
  • I disagree.
  • Well, if the government can't run a post office, can't run a medical system for our veterans, and can't run an education system... How will it run healthcare?

    Answer: the same way it does the others: halfassed.
  • But that's where you're wrong. The Postal Service is an example of an
    extremely efficient, cost-effective organization that delivers mail
    quite will. The VA was another example of terrific delivery of care
    until a lack of oversight and funding on the part of a recent Congress
    let it run amok. However, it will right itself. Our education system
    can use improvement, but I don't blame the Federal government either.
    Private education isn't all that it's touted to be, and homeschooling
    works for some and not for others. I might add this: Even if I wanted
    to (and I don't), I wouldn't be able to afford private education
    anyway. So should my children be uneducated? I think not.

    Yet when it comes to health care, you'd rather see a substantial
    portion of the population remain uncared for rather than provide
    coverage they can afford. The contradiction astounds.
  • Really? Is that why the Postal Service is showing another multi-billion loss this year? ANOTHER, not the first? That's real efficient for ya.

    The VA has always been a joke. It was a joke when my father tried it and it's a joke now when I try it. It's a bureaucratic nightmare. You're better off going to the ER and pretending you don't speak English.

    As for the school system, it worked pretty damn well until the fedgov got involved. As for private education, it's pretty cheap. I don't know where you've shopped for it, but private ed here is only about $1200/year per student at a good school. It used to be that religious institutions offered it free of charge to their parishioners, as do our local Catholic and Methodist churches.

    Finally, I know what the real problem with health care is. Ask any doctor what his number one expense is in his office. You'll be told it's insurance compliance thanks to Medicare/aid.

    Remove that and you cut healthcare costs by 33% right off the bat. Those regulations are, not surprising, GOVERNMENT.

    Once again, government doesn't solve problems, it only creates new ones that it can solve later by creating some more problems.

    WAKE UP!

    How safe do you feel when they're groping you at the airport to get on a plane? Did you know that the TSA let 80%+ of the dummy devices through their "security" in the last audit? That's government for ya.

    How about the Department of Homeland (in)Security? This is the largest federal institution to-date and it's done...almost NOTHING. Ya, tons of border security going on (not), plenty of cargo getting checked for bombs and nukes and such (not), etc. About all they've done is beef up security around elected officials. Wow, that really makes YOU and ME safer, doesn't it? At least Hillary and McCain will live through the terrorist's next attack.

    Give me a break, Karoli. You're love of big government and all its ineptitude and complete faith that "this time they'll get it right" is astounding. It doesn't take much research to find out all this information either. Most of it appears in daily headlines if you just look.

    Not that your publik skewl education taught you to read and learn, of course. Mine sure didn't. I had to do that on my own.
  • There is one thing in your screed that we agree with: The problem with
    Medicare/Aid is insurance companies. Indeed, you're correct.
  • Well, since your publik skewl education obviously over-indoctrinated you with the benevolence of government, despite all evidence to the contrary, I suppose I'm totally wasting my time here attempting to re-educate you to the truth. Have fun in your little dream world, lady. Hope you don't become government's next victim.

    You know, like the 6 million Jews, 20+ million Poles, 22+ million Russians, possibly hundreds of million Chinese, millions of Africans, and countless others.

    Ya, Amerika will be different. Because it just can't happen here. They'd never spray us with experimental biologicals (happened), commit assassinations on our soil (happened), or use bureaucracy to keep us behind bars indefinitely (happens). We don't even force people off their lands and steal their property or homes (happens). Nah. Not here.

    This is the Land of the Free. Where you're free to pay over 50% of your income in taxes, free to participate in free speech zones, and free to own land provided you pay the taxes on it and no bureaucrat decides to condemn it so they can give it to Wal-Mart.

    Aren't we just lucky? Liberty is all over the place. Just don't cross the fence to look at it too closely.
  • Thank you for revealing the truth behind the invective. Have a nice day.
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