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		<title>By: Zac</title>
		<link>http://ushealthcrisis.com/2009/07/three-big-gop-lies-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-628</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California has MUCH larger issues, but what they did in the way of &quot;tort reform&quot; is hardly what I&#039;d consider reform (more like regression).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;California is an extreme case due to years of progressive policies in all areas of their state government.  It needs some drastic changes in the way it regulates health insurance providers (moreso than other states in many regards).  Additionally, border security, immigration enforcement, and tax reform are all needed to California to get back in the positive in more areas than just health care/insurance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you really want to see why your premiums keep &quot;skyrocketing&quot; (as a side note, you might look into moving to a different state ... for example, my premiums in Virginia have gone down 10% over the last 12 years), walk into an ER in a few hospitals.  As you look around at all the people waiting in the lounge to be seen, realize that many of them likely will not pay a dime for the treatment they receive.  By pushing for a single-payer system, you are advocating that, instead of a being able to choose to go with a different company when your present insurance company raises rates to compensate for those that are not paying, everyone that currently pays should pay more, while those that do not pay will continue to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California has MUCH larger issues, but what they did in the way of &#8220;tort reform&#8221; is hardly what I&#39;d consider reform (more like regression).</p>
<p>California is an extreme case due to years of progressive policies in all areas of their state government.  It needs some drastic changes in the way it regulates health insurance providers (moreso than other states in many regards).  Additionally, border security, immigration enforcement, and tax reform are all needed to California to get back in the positive in more areas than just health care/insurance.</p>
<p>If you really want to see why your premiums keep &#8220;skyrocketing&#8221; (as a side note, you might look into moving to a different state &#8230; for example, my premiums in Virginia have gone down 10% over the last 12 years), walk into an ER in a few hospitals.  As you look around at all the people waiting in the lounge to be seen, realize that many of them likely will not pay a dime for the treatment they receive.  By pushing for a single-payer system, you are advocating that, instead of a being able to choose to go with a different company when your present insurance company raises rates to compensate for those that are not paying, everyone that currently pays should pay more, while those that do not pay will continue to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
		<link>http://ushealthcrisis.com/2009/07/three-big-gop-lies-on-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California has MUCH larger issues, but what they did in the way of &quot;tort reform&quot; is hardly what I&#039;d consider reform (more like regression).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;California is an extreme case due to years of progressive policies in all areas of their state government.  It needs some drastic changes in the way it regulates health insurance providers (moreso than other states in many regards).  Additionally, border security, immigration enforcement, and tax reform are all needed to California to get back in the positive in more areas than just health care/insurance.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you really want to see why your premiums keep &quot;skyrocketing&quot; (as a side note, you might look into moving to a different state ... for example, my premiums in Virginia have gone down 10% over the last 12 years), walk into an ER in a few hospitals.  As you look around at all the people waiting in the lounge to be seen, realize that many of them likely will not pay a dime for the treatment they receive.  By pushing for a single-payer system, you are advocating that, instead of a being able to choose to go with a different company when your present insurance company raises rates to compensate for those that are not paying, everyone that currently pays should pay more, while those that do not pay will continue to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California has MUCH larger issues, but what they did in the way of &#8220;tort reform&#8221; is hardly what I&#39;d consider reform (more like regression).</p>
<p>California is an extreme case due to years of progressive policies in all areas of their state government.  It needs some drastic changes in the way it regulates health insurance providers (moreso than other states in many regards).  Additionally, border security, immigration enforcement, and tax reform are all needed to California to get back in the positive in more areas than just health care/insurance.</p>
<p>If you really want to see why your premiums keep &#8220;skyrocketing&#8221; (as a side note, you might look into moving to a different state &#8230; for example, my premiums in Virginia have gone down 10% over the last 12 years), walk into an ER in a few hospitals.  As you look around at all the people waiting in the lounge to be seen, realize that many of them likely will not pay a dime for the treatment they receive.  By pushing for a single-payer system, you are advocating that, instead of a being able to choose to go with a different company when your present insurance company raises rates to compensate for those that are not paying, everyone that currently pays should pay more, while those that do not pay will continue to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tort reform has been implemented in California. Since implementation,  &lt;br&gt;my health insurance costs have doubled. How do you reconcile your  &lt;br&gt;claim that tort reform will make a difference with the increases in my  &lt;br&gt;costs? Not just me, either. Med malpractice lawsuits are way, way  &lt;br&gt;down, yet premiums keep skyrocketing, which indicates that tort reform  &lt;br&gt;either is an ineffective way to contain costs, or else the savings are  &lt;br&gt;simply becoming profit margins for insurers and providers alike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tort reform has been implemented in California. Since implementation,  <br />my health insurance costs have doubled. How do you reconcile your  <br />claim that tort reform will make a difference with the increases in my  <br />costs? Not just me, either. Med malpractice lawsuits are way, way  <br />down, yet premiums keep skyrocketing, which indicates that tort reform  <br />either is an ineffective way to contain costs, or else the savings are  <br />simply becoming profit margins for insurers and providers alike.</p>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 03:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Capps amendment took care of the loopholes rather thoroughly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Capps amendment took care of the loopholes rather thoroughly.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your conclusion about abortions is not entirely accurate.  In HR 3200, abortion is not mentioned at all and many in the House (especially pro-choice democrats) have fought tooth and nail to keep any mention of abortion out of the bill.  The reason for this is simple:  since abortion is a legal medical procedure, if it is not specifically regulated differently in the bill, the government bureaucracy would be able to makes its own rules (similar to what private insurance companies do now) regarding it.  With the current political landscape in DC, it is highly likely they would have full coverage for abortions under the government plan (meaning taxpayer money would be funding a procedure that some of the taxpayers consider murder).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is just one of the problems with a single-payer health savings plan (as it would not be insurance, by definition).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your conclusion about abortions is not entirely accurate.  In HR 3200, abortion is not mentioned at all and many in the House (especially pro-choice democrats) have fought tooth and nail to keep any mention of abortion out of the bill.  The reason for this is simple:  since abortion is a legal medical procedure, if it is not specifically regulated differently in the bill, the government bureaucracy would be able to makes its own rules (similar to what private insurance companies do now) regarding it.  With the current political landscape in DC, it is highly likely they would have full coverage for abortions under the government plan (meaning taxpayer money would be funding a procedure that some of the taxpayers consider murder).</p>
<p>This is just one of the problems with a single-payer health savings plan (as it would not be insurance, by definition).</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you distort the &quot;general welfare&quot; clause as such (giving the federal government power to mandate individual behavior), you are creating the foundation for a totalitarian state.  The reason I stated that using it as your reasoning discredits your argument is that by using it, you are flat out telling people &quot;you cannot take care of yourself, make your own decisions, or know what is best for yourself and thus, the government must step in and do that for you.&quot;  In other words, you cannot be trusted to live your own lives, so the government will do that for you and it will eventually be faced with the decision to decide your &quot;worth&quot; to society (due to its limited resources).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By twisting the intent of the meaning of the &quot;general welfare&quot; clause (and this is in general - not specific to any of the proposed healthcare reform bills being floated around the House and Senate), you are advocating a totalitarian utopia, which then invalidates your argument that a republic should allow its government to have such power as a republic and a authoritarian utopia cannot exist simultaneously (which is the flaw in Hamilton&#039;s view of the Republic ... afterall, he wanted an aristocratic monarchy).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m all for getting rid of employer-based health insurance and health insurance reform is needed.  However, there is no need for a 1000+ page bill to accomplish this.  The two biggest ways things we can do to fix this problem (both of which can and should be done at a state level, by the way) is to reform tort law to limit bogus lawsuits (I&#039;d suggest requiring the plaintiff to pay the amount they asked for to the defendant should the plaintiff lose their case), and get rid of many state (and in some cases federal) regulations that force health insurance companies to operate less like insurance and more like health savings plans (let them operate similar to other forms of insurance - e.g. car, life, homeowners, etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you distort the &#8220;general welfare&#8221; clause as such (giving the federal government power to mandate individual behavior), you are creating the foundation for a totalitarian state.  The reason I stated that using it as your reasoning discredits your argument is that by using it, you are flat out telling people &#8220;you cannot take care of yourself, make your own decisions, or know what is best for yourself and thus, the government must step in and do that for you.&#8221;  In other words, you cannot be trusted to live your own lives, so the government will do that for you and it will eventually be faced with the decision to decide your &#8220;worth&#8221; to society (due to its limited resources).  </p>
<p>By twisting the intent of the meaning of the &#8220;general welfare&#8221; clause (and this is in general &#8211; not specific to any of the proposed healthcare reform bills being floated around the House and Senate), you are advocating a totalitarian utopia, which then invalidates your argument that a republic should allow its government to have such power as a republic and a authoritarian utopia cannot exist simultaneously (which is the flaw in Hamilton&#39;s view of the Republic &#8230; afterall, he wanted an aristocratic monarchy).</p>
<p>I&#39;m all for getting rid of employer-based health insurance and health insurance reform is needed.  However, there is no need for a 1000+ page bill to accomplish this.  The two biggest ways things we can do to fix this problem (both of which can and should be done at a state level, by the way) is to reform tort law to limit bogus lawsuits (I&#39;d suggest requiring the plaintiff to pay the amount they asked for to the defendant should the plaintiff lose their case), and get rid of many state (and in some cases federal) regulations that force health insurance companies to operate less like insurance and more like health savings plans (let them operate similar to other forms of insurance &#8211; e.g. car, life, homeowners, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, the Constitutional argument rises again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course, the &#039;general welfare&#039; clause of the Constitution does allow  &lt;br&gt;for this kind of power to be granted to the Federal government. Yes,  &lt;br&gt;yes, I know. Madison argued in Federalist 41 that it should not be  &lt;br&gt;interpreted thus. But...shoulda wouldas don&#039;t count here. The US  &lt;br&gt;Supreme Court affirmed the &#039;general welfare&#039; clause in the  &lt;br&gt;constitution to be interpreted as Hamilton interpreted it -- as  &lt;br&gt;granting the power to the Federal government. Given that the USSC has  &lt;br&gt;&quot;distorted&quot; the argument to grant such power, and further given that  &lt;br&gt;this decision has not been overturned and is therefore the law of the  &lt;br&gt;land, the conclusion is that the general welfare clause is indeed the  &lt;br&gt;authority for the government to be granted such power.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want for that clause to be inapplicable, I suggest you all  &lt;br&gt;train your sights on putting a case in front of the Supreme Court that  &lt;br&gt;seeks to overturn that ruling. Until then, the prevailing  &lt;br&gt;law...prevails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, the Constitutional argument rises again.</p>
<p>Of course, the &#39;general welfare&#39; clause of the Constitution does allow  <br />for this kind of power to be granted to the Federal government. Yes,  <br />yes, I know. Madison argued in Federalist 41 that it should not be  <br />interpreted thus. But&#8230;shoulda wouldas don&#39;t count here. The US  <br />Supreme Court affirmed the &#39;general welfare&#39; clause in the  <br />constitution to be interpreted as Hamilton interpreted it &#8212; as  <br />granting the power to the Federal government. Given that the USSC has  <br />&#8220;distorted&#8221; the argument to grant such power, and further given that  <br />this decision has not been overturned and is therefore the law of the  <br />land, the conclusion is that the general welfare clause is indeed the  <br />authority for the government to be granted such power.</p>
<p>If you want for that clause to be inapplicable, I suggest you all  <br />train your sights on putting a case in front of the Supreme Court that  <br />seeks to overturn that ruling. Until then, the prevailing  <br />law&#8230;prevails.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its ironic that this is titled &quot;lies of the gop&quot; as there are so many lies and distortions in this piece that it claims to debunk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That said, it fails to answer one key question (that I have yet to see a single Representative or Senator answer):  What part of the Constitution do they think gives the the authority to grant this kind of power to the federal government?  (I should warn you, trying to distort the meaning of the &quot;general welfare&quot; phrase only serves to discredit your argument).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its ironic that this is titled &#8220;lies of the gop&#8221; as there are so many lies and distortions in this piece that it claims to debunk.</p>
<p>That said, it fails to answer one key question (that I have yet to see a single Representative or Senator answer):  What part of the Constitution do they think gives the the authority to grant this kind of power to the federal government?  (I should warn you, trying to distort the meaning of the &#8220;general welfare&#8221; phrase only serves to discredit your argument).</p>
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		<title>By: JABbering Stooge :: What? The GOP Lying? Noooooo&#8230;. :: July :: 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>JABbering Stooge :: What? The GOP Lying? Noooooo&#8230;. :: July :: 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ya think? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Karoli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karoli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The spending on health care is actually slowing the economy and job creation. Unlike electronics purchases, which have a positive effect on the economy, health care dollars are not being spent wisely nor are they contributing to economic growth.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Love the handle...scary, but funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The spending on health care is actually slowing the economy and job creation. Unlike electronics purchases, which have a positive effect on the economy, health care dollars are not being spent wisely nor are they contributing to economic growth.</p>
<p>Love the handle&#8230;scary, but funny.</p>
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